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Allan Hungerford (1913-1999), Butcher. Recorded 4 December 1982. Part 1/1.
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SummaryTAPE 127A Allan Hungerford. Recorded on the 4th December 1982. Part 1 of 1
He was well known in the area as a dairy man. He owned the property known Hungerford Hills Vineyard. He is now living at Baulkham Property which is quite close to the cross roads between the Cessnock/Branxton and Cessnock/Lochinvar Roads.
1:20
His relation to the earlier Hungerfords. Claude was his father and Claude’s parents, Robert and Margaret Hungerford are buried out in the C of E section of the Wilderness Cemetery. They had a small vineyard on the McDonalds Road.
Allan is active looking after stud calves. His son Stan, had sold out of the dairy because he’s not well. He has a son, Ross at Broke who works on a mine.
Allan talks about his Friesian milking stud – milk and butter fat records. Herd records.
Distinction in milk production. Showing “knocks the hell out of them”.
7:43
Allan had been a butcher all his life starting at Pokolbin. He went into dairying because his kids weren’t interested in butchering. His father had a shop where Rothbury is today. When he was 16, due to his father’s illness, he took over the business. At 10 he was delivering meat from a cart. He came to Cessnock in the 30’s just before the Depression. He was in Cessnock and the “kids” started the dairying in Hungerford Hills. He bought the land for £2 3/- an acre.
He sold the land without regret and the land prices rose after that. He had about 2,000 acres. He began selling at $100 an acre up to $900 an acre. He worked hard for everything he had – he works 7 days a week, 10 hour days. Fencing, chipping thistles, on the tractor. Big thistle area at Broke. 22 thistles within arm’s reach.
13:56
He has been on Lovedale (previously referred to as Baulkham) about 14 years. Previously owned by Reg Bancroft.
Allan bought 6 different properties and they all join. Charley Hungerford is related to Percy Hungerford, not to Allan. The Keims. The Campbells. Sarah Campbell. Mount Eagle. Land buying. White wine grape country.
McWilliams. Allan’s mother said “manure and water will grow anything”.
His mother was a De Beyer – she was Bill’s sister. Her mother and father came out before the War – “they were as poor as you make it” – but they existed on it. She was called Margaret and Bill De Beyer married a Cooper from Maitland.
20:58
Bill’s place was near Audrey Wilkinson – he a bit more than 10 acres with the cellars back at the house.
Ted Hungerford’s place was up on the flat on the left from Keims’.
Cellar owners in the area. Albert Joass. Sam Thompson. Keims’. Campbell. Wilkinson only made 10 gallons of wine a year and used to get £4 or £5 a gallon for it. “It was a liquer!”.
25:35
Palmer’s Lane –“ Pinchin’s had the best property” – Hall married a Campbell. He had a little dairy. Ted Hungerford had a cellar but Allan’s family never had a cellar. “Ted didn’t like work nor did Charley” (who bought Eckert’s place).
28:09
Road building. ”They pay an engineer today on what he spends, not on what he saves” -
Steam trains, job losses, working for the dole, the judiciary, parliamentarians.
The Church at Glenmore at the cemetery at Peacock – The church from Tulloch’s went to Bellbird.
39:54
Errol Meares bought the one from the Wilderness – largely white anted.
44:02
Allan’s wife enters the interview: she was a Drayton – Len was her uncle, Harry was her father, Jock was her brother.
45:02
End Tape 127 Side A Part 1 of 1
Hungerford, Leslie Allan, 1913-1999Pokolbin (N.S.W.)PersonJack DelaneyDepicts or Relates ToLen DraytonLocation[1] Pokolbin, NSWIdentifier127A
He was well known in the area as a dairy man. He owned the property known Hungerford Hills Vineyard. He is now living at Baulkham Property which is quite close to the cross roads between the Cessnock/Branxton and Cessnock/Lochinvar Roads.
1:20
His relation to the earlier Hungerfords. Claude was his father and Claude’s parents, Robert and Margaret Hungerford are buried out in the C of E section of the Wilderness Cemetery. They had a small vineyard on the McDonalds Road.
Allan is active looking after stud calves. His son Stan, had sold out of the dairy because he’s not well. He has a son, Ross at Broke who works on a mine.
Allan talks about his Friesian milking stud – milk and butter fat records. Herd records.
Distinction in milk production. Showing “knocks the hell out of them”.
7:43
Allan had been a butcher all his life starting at Pokolbin. He went into dairying because his kids weren’t interested in butchering. His father had a shop where Rothbury is today. When he was 16, due to his father’s illness, he took over the business. At 10 he was delivering meat from a cart. He came to Cessnock in the 30’s just before the Depression. He was in Cessnock and the “kids” started the dairying in Hungerford Hills. He bought the land for £2 3/- an acre.
He sold the land without regret and the land prices rose after that. He had about 2,000 acres. He began selling at $100 an acre up to $900 an acre. He worked hard for everything he had – he works 7 days a week, 10 hour days. Fencing, chipping thistles, on the tractor. Big thistle area at Broke. 22 thistles within arm’s reach.
13:56
He has been on Lovedale (previously referred to as Baulkham) about 14 years. Previously owned by Reg Bancroft.
Allan bought 6 different properties and they all join. Charley Hungerford is related to Percy Hungerford, not to Allan. The Keims. The Campbells. Sarah Campbell. Mount Eagle. Land buying. White wine grape country.
McWilliams. Allan’s mother said “manure and water will grow anything”.
His mother was a De Beyer – she was Bill’s sister. Her mother and father came out before the War – “they were as poor as you make it” – but they existed on it. She was called Margaret and Bill De Beyer married a Cooper from Maitland.
20:58
Bill’s place was near Audrey Wilkinson – he a bit more than 10 acres with the cellars back at the house.
Ted Hungerford’s place was up on the flat on the left from Keims’.
Cellar owners in the area. Albert Joass. Sam Thompson. Keims’. Campbell. Wilkinson only made 10 gallons of wine a year and used to get £4 or £5 a gallon for it. “It was a liquer!”.
25:35
Palmer’s Lane –“ Pinchin’s had the best property” – Hall married a Campbell. He had a little dairy. Ted Hungerford had a cellar but Allan’s family never had a cellar. “Ted didn’t like work nor did Charley” (who bought Eckert’s place).
28:09
Road building. ”They pay an engineer today on what he spends, not on what he saves” -
Steam trains, job losses, working for the dole, the judiciary, parliamentarians.
The Church at Glenmore at the cemetery at Peacock – The church from Tulloch’s went to Bellbird.
39:54
Errol Meares bought the one from the Wilderness – largely white anted.
44:02
Allan’s wife enters the interview: she was a Drayton – Len was her uncle, Harry was her father, Jock was her brother.
45:02
End Tape 127 Side A Part 1 of 1
Hungerford, Leslie Allan, 1913-1999Pokolbin (N.S.W.)PersonJack DelaneyDepicts or Relates ToLen DraytonLocation[1] Pokolbin, NSWIdentifier127Aloading google map....
Delaney, Jack, 1919-2010, Allan Hungerford (1913-1999), Butcher. Recorded 4 December 1982. Part 1/1. , [127A]. Living Histories, accessed 05/10/2023, https://livinghistories.newcastle.edu.au/nodes/view/55718